Investing Ideas

  • Subscribe to our RSS feed.
  • Twitter
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • Facebook
  • Digg

Sunday, 15 January 2012

Marc Faber Picks at 2012 Barron's Roundtable

Posted on 02:35 by Unknown
The first month of the year is time for Barron's roudtable. There were 10 panelists for 2012:

  • Scoot Black - Delphi Management
  • Fred Hickey - The High Street Strategist
  • Abby Joseph Cohen - Global Markets Institutes
  • Brian Rogers - T. Rowe Price
  • Marc Faber - The Gloom, Doom & Boom Report
  • Meryl Witmer - Eagle Capital Partners
  • Mario Gabelli - Gamco Investors Inc.
  • Oscar Schafer - O.S.S. Capital Management
  • Bill Gross - Pimco
  • Felix Zulauf - Zulauf Asset Management
They discussed their views on the economy and markets and gave their picks for 2012.

Here are Marc Faber's Picks for 2012:

Investment/Ticker Price 1/6/12
Big-Cap Stocks
Total / TOT$50.75
Nestlé / NESN.Switzerland54.00 CHF
Novartis / NVS$57.31
Pfizer / PFE21.57
Singapore
SATS / SATS.SingaporeS$2.23
K-REIT Asia Management / KREIT.Singapore0.89
StarHub / STH.Singapore2.9
Wing Tai Holdings / WINGT.Singapore0.99
Fraser & Neave / FNN.Singapore6.35
Hong Kong
Sun Hung Kai Properties / 16.Hong KongHK$98.20
Swire Pacific / 19.Hong Kong75.45
Hang Seng Bank / 11.Hong Kong92.9
India
India Capital Fund*$66.24
Short
International Business Machines / IBM$182.54
Salesforce.com / CRM101.06
Australian dollar A$1=$1.02
*Price of A shares as of 9/30/2011.
Source: Bloomberg

Here's the part of Barron's Roundtable where he explains his long picks:

Faber: My preference is asset diversification, as we don't know how much money governments will print, the size of fiscal deficits and so forth. The biggest uncertainty is what will happen to the Chinese economy. The Chinese probably can continue to muddle through, easing interest rates again to keep things up. But we're dealing with an economy driven by capital spending, which is driven by credit, which wasn't the case until 2008.


Faber: There is a huge amount of underground lending throughout Asia. Mr. Bernanke can drop his dollar bills on the U.S., but the growth in dollars here can lead to strong economic growth and inflation in other countries. That has happened in the past few years. I am the most bearish person you can imagine on earth, which is why I recommend putting, say, 25% of your money in equities, 25% in precious metals, 25% in cash and bonds and 25% in real estate. These assets won't go up substantially this year, but they could preserve your wealth.

People say large-capitalization stocks are inexpensive, and I agree. I would buy a basket of high-quality big-caps in Europe and the U.S. You can by Total [TOT], in France, which yields more than 5%, and Nestlé [NESN.Switzerland] and Novartis [NVS] and Pfizer [PFE]. These stocks don't have huge downside risk. Because emerging markets saw big declines last year, you could also buy SATS [SATS.Singapore], in Singapore, which provides catering services to the airline industry and ports. It yields 5% and trades for 13 times earnings. I also like K-REIT Asia Management [KREIT.Singapore], a real-estate investment trust that yields 7%. The stock has fallen by about 50% and the dividend might be cut. But even if it is cut to 4%, this is an OK investment. These stocks won't go up right away, but reinvesting dividends will yield an adequate return over time. StarHub [STH.Singapore], the mobile-phone company, yields 6.9% and the P/E is 14.

Zulauf: If China decelerates sharply, won't markets like Singapore have another big hit?

Faber: The question is, to what extent has that been discounted already? They could fall another 20%, but a luxury-property developer like Wing Tai Holdings [WINGT.Singapore] already sells for half its book value. I am positive about Singapore in the long run because more Europeans are moving there, and to Hong Kong. Because of banking-secrecy laws it is probably safer to have a bank account in Singapore than Europe.
The Hong Kong market was hit hard, and stocks haven't bottomed yet. But you can buy Sun Hung Kai Properties [16.Hong Kong], with a P/E of five and a yield of 3.5%. Swire Pacific [19.Hong Kong] is a blue-chip, a well-managed conglomerate. It yields almost 5% and the P/E is 11. Hang Seng Bank [11.HK] yields 5.6% and trades for 11 times earnings. There isn't a huge risk in these stocks, but maybe I'm too bullish.

and his short picks:

Faber: IBM [IBM] is a good short. It is the back office of the world. There is room for earnings disappointment. If China implodes, the Australian dollar will go downwhill. That's another short. A third is Salesforce.com [CRM], which I recommended shorting in the June Roundtable ["Buy Low, Stay Nimble," June 13, 2011].


Faber: Order, order. I haven't finished. Fraser & Neave [FNN.Singapore], in Singapore, is a conglomerate similar to Swire. It sells for 10 times earnings and yields about 3%. It could become a takeover target at some point. Lastly, I am the chairman of the India Capital Fund [an open-end fund sold outside the U.S.]. The fund and the Indian currency have been hit hard, and the fund could go lower. But the U.S. outperformed India last year on the order of 40%, and the Indian market looks attractive at 12 times earnings. As Chen Zhao at BCA Research said, in China the macro backdrop is fantastic and the micro is a disaster, but in India the macro is a disaster and the micro is fantastic. India has very good companies. The fund is overweight the banks and has a P/E of 10.
Last year I was overweight the U.S. relative to emerging economies. At what stage will the outperformance of the U.S. cease and emerging markets rise again? It could be three or six months, or a year. I am gradually increasing my exposure to emerging markets. Thai and Indian banks have no exposure to Europe. Indian banks lend domestically.

Why is the Indian economy having trouble?
 
Faber: Money-printing in the U.S. created food and energy inflation. In poor countries the percentage of per capita income spent on food and energy is much higher than in advanced societies.

Faber: Yes. Credit was growing rapidly and the hangover period could last for a while but these markets are good long-term investments. I travel extensively in these countries and you can see the growth of economic development. People go from bicycles to motorcycles, and from motorcycles to cars. First-time buyers of cars jump socially, as do first-time buyers of homes. Thailand has several consumer-credit companies. Buyers will do everything to pay off their loans. They aren't going to walk away. Plus, bankruptcy laws are tough.
Hedge funds performed badly last year, with few exceptions. Why is that? The bond market was strong, gold was up 11% and the U.S. market was flat, but sectors such as utilities did well. This year the economy could contract and stocks could go ballistic as central banks print money. If investors are diversified, they might do all right.

If you are interested in the full Barron's roundtable transcript and have the time to go thru the 9 pages, you can do so by reading the article Listen Up, Class: Here's How to Profit.


Email ThisBlogThis!Share to XShare to Facebook
Posted in aud, barrons, crude oil, currency, dividend, healthcare, hong kong, india, marc faber, picks, singapore, stock market, stocks | No comments
Newer Post Older Post Home

0 comments:

Post a Comment

Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom)

Popular Posts

  • Long Term Charts of the Thai Stock Market (SET)
    This article showing the long term charts of the SET Index, price earning ratio and price to book value was originally posted on CNX Transl...
  • Jim Rogers: Gold Going Much Higher In This Decade
    ET Now interviews Jim Rogers on the 23rd of January 2012. They asked him about commodities following the monetary easing by China, and he r...
  • Peter Schiff EP Latin America Fund
    Euro Pacific has launched a new Latin American Fund under the ticker EPLAX . The Fund is managed by Russell Hoss, CFA, portfolio manager, w...
  • Marc Faber January 2012 Market Commentary
    Marc Faber has just released his January 2012 market commentary on the gloomboomdoom.com website. This month report is entitled " The ...
  • US Markets Valuation, Sentiment and Technical Analysis - January 2012
    In recent weeks, the S&P 500 has performed very well, almost reaching 2011 highs. At the same time, several indicators would seem to ind...
  • Marc Faber: Lack of Savings is the Problem of the US
    Marc Faber was interviewed on CNBC on the 11th of October 2011. He said he was bullish on the US dollar: Despite the fact that the (European...
  • Bearish Sign: Extreme Bullishness for US stock market
    The latest Market Harmonics intelligence survey shows a Bull/Bear Ratio of 3.65, the highest ratio of the last 5 years. See bull and bear ch...
  • The Next 20 Years: Inflation vs Deflation
    Steve Keen, an Australian economist and contrarian strongly opposed to neo-classic economists views, has recently posted an article entitled...
  • India to Pay For Iranian Oil with Gold
    I've just seen a report on Russia Today saying that following sanctions from the US and Europe on financial transactions with Iran, Indi...
  • Investing in Natural Gas
    Natural is about the only commodity that is currently depressed as you can see in the chart below (Source: IndexMundi) plotting the 10-year ...

Categories

  • 0336.HK
  • 1137n
  • 2012
  • 2013
  • 2014
  • aaii
  • aaii-14
  • agriculture
  • alex jones
  • alternative energy
  • analyst
  • anonymous
  • anonymous analytics
  • argentina
  • armageddon
  • asia
  • aud
  • australia
  • axel merk
  • bailout
  • baltic dry index
  • bank
  • bank run
  • bankia
  • bankrupt
  • banks
  • barrons
  • bbc
  • bdiy
  • bear
  • ben bernanke
  • bernanke
  • bloomberg
  • bmgi
  • boj
  • bond
  • bonds
  • brazil
  • brent
  • bric
  • british pound
  • bubble
  • bublle
  • business insider
  • buy
  • cac 40
  • canada
  • cape
  • cds
  • central bank
  • chf
  • china
  • chinese
  • chris martenson
  • climate change
  • cnbc
  • cnn
  • cny
  • colin campbell
  • collapse
  • commodities
  • confidence
  • contango
  • copper
  • crash
  • credit
  • crisis
  • crude oi
  • crude oil
  • currency
  • currency crisis
  • daily ticker
  • david morgan
  • debt
  • debt crisis
  • debtflation
  • decadence
  • deflation
  • depression
  • dictatorship
  • dividend
  • dollar
  • dollar collapse
  • downgrade
  • drachma
  • dubai
  • earning
  • ecb
  • economic collapse
  • economic crisis
  • economy
  • ecri
  • egypt
  • election
  • emerging market
  • emerging markets
  • energy
  • english
  • environment
  • eplax
  • epusx
  • equities
  • eric sprott
  • et now
  • etf
  • etn
  • euro
  • euro pacific
  • euroland
  • europe
  • eurozone
  • facebook
  • farm land
  • farmland
  • federal reserve
  • fiscal cliff
  • fiscale cliff
  • fiscality
  • forecast
  • forestry
  • fortune
  • fox business
  • fox news
  • france
  • fraud
  • funds
  • gdp
  • gdx
  • gdxj
  • geab 54
  • geab 55
  • geab 57
  • geab 58
  • geab 59
  • geab 60
  • geab 61
  • geab 62
  • geab 63
  • geab 64
  • geab 65
  • geab 66
  • geab 69
  • geab 70
  • geitner
  • geopolitics
  • george soros
  • gerald celente
  • germany
  • gfc
  • gld
  • global systemic crisis
  • gloomboomdoom
  • gmo
  • gmo. jeremy grantham
  • gmo. us
  • gold
  • government
  • grantham
  • greece
  • hang seng
  • healthcare
  • hong kong
  • huabao international
  • Hugh Hendry
  • hui
  • hussman
  • hyperdeflation
  • hyperinflation
  • india
  • indonesia
  • inflation
  • interest rate
  • investment
  • investment idea
  • investment ideas
  • investor intelligence
  • iran
  • iraq
  • iron ore
  • italy
  • jackson hole
  • japan
  • jeffrey sachs
  • jeremy grantham
  • jim chanos
  • jim grant
  • jim rogers
  • kbw
  • keynesian
  • language
  • latin america
  • leader economics
  • leap 2020
  • leap2020
  • lng
  • ltro
  • lybia
  • manipulation
  • marc faber
  • marc faber. crude oil
  • market commentary
  • mean reversion
  • merk funds
  • mes
  • mf global
  • mike maloney
  • military
  • mining
  • minsky
  • mish
  • mish shedlock
  • mmc
  • mohamed el-erian
  • money printing
  • morality
  • myanmar
  • nasdaq
  • natural gas
  • netflix
  • newsmax
  • north korea
  • nya200r
  • nzd
  • obama
  • oih
  • oil
  • overpopulation
  • paul krugman
  • peak everything
  • peak oil
  • pension
  • per
  • peter schiff
  • pho
  • physical
  • picks
  • pimco
  • pio
  • politics
  • potash
  • prechter
  • precious metals
  • price
  • price earning ratio
  • price to book value
  • profits
  • property
  • qe 3
  • qe3
  • qe4
  • quantitative easing
  • real estate
  • real estate. sentiment
  • recession
  • recovery
  • reit
  • report
  • reuters
  • rgra
  • rgrd
  • rgre
  • rgrei
  • rgri
  • rgrp
  • rice
  • riots
  • rja
  • rji
  • rjn
  • rmb
  • ron paul
  • rsi
  • russia
  • russia today
  • scam
  • scandinavia
  • sea
  • sell
  • sensex
  • sentiment
  • set
  • shares
  • shiller
  • short
  • short selling
  • silver
  • singapore
  • slv
  • snb
  • south america
  • south korea
  • sp500
  • spain
  • speculator
  • sprott
  • statistics
  • steve keen
  • stock
  • stock market
  • stock markets
  • stockmarket
  • stocks
  • sugar
  • synthetic
  • tax
  • tbt
  • technical analysis
  • thai
  • thailand
  • timber
  • tmv
  • treasuries
  • treasury
  • trend
  • trends
  • trends journal
  • tresuries
  • tsunami
  • uco
  • uk
  • unemployment
  • united kingdom
  • us
  • us debt
  • us dollar
  • usa
  • usd
  • uso
  • valuation
  • vietnam
  • virtue
  • visionvictory
  • war
  • warren buffett
  • water
  • wli
  • wti
  • yen
  • yuan

Blog Archive

  • ►  2013 (12)
    • ►  July (2)
    • ►  June (1)
    • ►  May (1)
    • ►  April (1)
    • ►  March (1)
    • ►  February (3)
    • ►  January (3)
  • ▼  2012 (83)
    • ►  December (3)
    • ►  November (5)
    • ►  October (1)
    • ►  August (4)
    • ►  July (7)
    • ►  June (7)
    • ►  May (7)
    • ►  April (12)
    • ►  March (12)
    • ►  February (10)
    • ▼  January (15)
      • Marc Faber February 2012 Market Commentary
      • Jim Rogers: Politicians Want To Fool Us This Year
      • US Markets Valuation, Sentiment and Technical Anal...
      • Baltic Dry Index Near All Time Low
      • India to Pay For Iranian Oil with Gold
      • Long Term Charts of the Thai Stock Market (SET) -...
      • Marc Faber: Relax! Stocks Won't Collpase
      • 2012 Recession Likely
      • GMO 7-Year Asset Class Forecasts - 4Q 2011
      • Jim Rogers on Europe Ratings Downgrade
      • GEAB 61: Global Systemic Crisis: 2012 : The Year o...
      • Marc Faber Picks at 2012 Barron's Roundtable
      • Marc Faber on US and Europe Credit Ratings
      • Jim Rogers: Short Emerging Markets, Long Base Metals
      • Eric Sprott: The Financial System is a Farce
  • ►  2011 (109)
    • ►  December (13)
    • ►  November (12)
    • ►  October (15)
    • ►  September (16)
    • ►  August (18)
    • ►  May (4)
    • ►  April (9)
    • ►  March (10)
    • ►  February (12)
Powered by Blogger.

About Me

Unknown
View my complete profile